Anglican Unscripted 489 – Lambeth 2020

Kevin and Stephen Noll discuss a range of issues surrounding Lambeth 2020.

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Kevin and Stephen Noll discuss a range of issues surrounding Lambeth 2020.

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  1. Who is the bishop to Ephraim Radner and his wife Annette Brownlee? They are both priests. Are they still resident canonically in Colorado? Perhaps they are adrift. No hurry on an answer. I’ll keep asking at every opportunity.

    • Why not go over to Covenant, where Dr. Radner is discussing his proposal, and ask him? I really don’t see what bearing his residency has on his 6 recommendations, but as far as I know, he is still officially resident in Colorado, while still teaching at Wycliff.

      • I don’t get the pretended ignorance thing from RH.

        ReebHerb, just ask Radner+ where his canonical residence is. I’ll bet it’s not a big secret.

        Why would you ask us? But my understanding is the same as TJ’s, for what my understanding is worth.

        • The story I heard was about Radner. I don’t have as many sources as the rest of you. Just asking. He claims to be a theologian. At some point the theology should match the credentials on the wall.

          • Let me help out ReebHerb. There are 20-30 years of Dr. Radner’s work available on the internet, and you can find dozens, perhaps hundreds, of essays, reviews, critiques and theological analyses he has written by entering “Ephriam Radner” into your search bar.

            I have never seen him “claim” to be a theologian. He has a doctorate, and he is a professor of theology- both of which are easy to verify. It is not a claim, it is a fact.

          • I read many of his wordy essays while he lived in Colorado. I did develop an opinion of his work at the time and it was after his move to Canada I learned why he never offered a treatise on the orthodox case for women clergy.

          • In my humble opinion, he isn’t a friend of the church. There you go. You don’t have to wonder any more. Don’t you ever get tired of the blah, blah, blah?

        • If you can’t be bothered, Reeb, this is from the post in question:

          Ephraim Radner is a priest in the Episcopal Church (Diocese of Colorado)
          and professor of historical theology at Wycliffe College, an Anglican
          seminary affiliated with the University of Toronto.

          But the best thing to do would be to ask Radner+ himself.

          That said, what difference does it make for these proposals?

    • Annette Brownlee is an associate at St. Paul’s, L’Amoreaux. Kevin Robertson is her area bishop. I have no idea what sort of relationship St. Paul’s L’Amoreaux has with their area bishop.

      • Thank you. I’m wondering if she might be a suitable candidate in a couple years to be the permanent dean at St. Peter’s Cathedral in Tallahassee after Abp. Duncan leaves? This looks like an ideal church for a woman priest to break the glass ceiling in ACNA. I don’t imagine St. Peter’s search will be limited to only women within ACNA as they have drawn men from many other jurisdictions.

  3. Stephen Noll made the key point in his earlier article
    “Six Resolutions for Lambeth”: A Quick Response to Ephraim Radner (which you can find on Anglican Ink about 6 articles below this one)

    “If it is true that the Archbishop of Canterbury has a unique “inviting authority,” he alone can give legs to these resolutions. But they must be set in place prior to the Conference, or they will lack any shred of credibility.”

    A Lambeth resolution would be utterly pointless- it would just be another 10 year delay in actually doing anything while this, that and some other committee hem and haw over who has authority and whether the Communion has any authority over the heresy and blasphemy of its members, or their adoption of pagan marriage rituals, or their punishment of orthodox clergy.

    So, the ball is in the court of the Archbishop of Canterbury. Will he carry through on 30 years of promises, statements, communiques, meetings, votes….or is he going to carry through on what is clearly his current intention- that is, to continue the farce that has been going on since 2003, when TEC openly rejected the Anglican (and indeed, Nicean) formularies by voting down B001, and then consented to the election of VGR.

    What Dr. Radner has proposed is, in essence, what the Primates DECIDED to do a dozen years ago at Dromentine and Dar es Salaam. In the case of the latter meeting, both the ABoC (Williams) and the PB of TEC (Jefferts Schori) committed to carrying these out (at the press conference at the close of the meeting). Within a week, KJS had reversed her position. Williams never said a word, he just proceeded as though the meeting had never happened.

    Welby, for his part, in his statements prior to the 2016 Primates “gathering” said specifically that that meeting was happening within context of the decisions taken at Dar es Salaam and the various other Primates and ACC meetings that had called for discipline of TEC and the Anglican Church of Canada. He then reneged on those statements, and invented “good disagreement” in part to avoid any actual discipline.

    For Welby to re-establish any credibility for his position as “primus inter pares” he will need to live up to the commitments he made to his fellow priimates, that his predecessors made to the primates, and his own vows as bishop to uphold the doctrine of the church and “drive out” the bizarre pagan teachings currently infecting the Communion.

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