For centuries the Christian Church has been weakening under poor leadership. At the same time, Islam has remained unchanged — but has been migrating. This is that discussion.

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  1. As I said over on YouTube, this may be the best episode ever.

    I am sure you must have considered this, but when dealing with such crucial topics as antisemitism, the rise of Islam in the west, and the ostracism both generally and personally, of conservative voices within the Church (and the uncomfortable questions they pose to the power-that-be), it strikes me that an opening and/or closing prayer might be in order.

    And as I said over on youtube- I am left struck though by George’s comment near the end that (I played it back twice to make sure I heard what I heard) he has been “blackballed” (yes, I am old enough to know what you meant) by the Communion Partner bishops. Was that intended to be a joke and I did not catch? George did have a bit of a smile when he said it, but he often “smiles in adversity” and wore the same look when he described +Gavin being shut out by the CoE. If it is the case, that is a poor reward for his many defenses of Bishop Brewer and other CP bishops on the program.

    In these times, may the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with us all.

    • I have a tough time signing up with YouTube owned by Google one of the Masters of the Universe. Don’t own any of those Android devices that call home to the Mothership with personal demographics.

  2. This guy that the Pope signed an agreement with – on one hand you said that he was regarded as too soft by the mainstream Muslim community in and not really representative of their views – on the other hand you said he was advocating for the death penalty for apostates who left Islam – these two statements seem mutually incompatible….perhaps I should listen again…could you clarify?

    • Because he says one thing in English, for international consumption, and another in Arabic, for Egyptian and Muslim consumption.

  3. What “the hell”…?
    Am I the only one to find the headline somewhat unsuitable in a Christian publication?
    [edit: link removed per Comment Policy]

      • Ah, yes, of course – whenever I lapse into swearing I must remember to explain that everyone else does it and I am merely quoting them.
        James 1:26.

          • I just read a piece on hell by the “bishop” of Manchester, who uses “hell” in his title. Nothing to worry about Anglican Ink, all the press officer meant (according to Mr Walker) was that you were supposed to sit by yourself in isolation in the corner during your stay at Lambeth. Not to “burn for eternity” as a TEC cleric once doomed me to.

          • (1) The Song of Solomon has swearing in it? News to me.
            (2) I refer you to a wiser person than me – John Piper:
            “The second kind of language that Paul would call rotten would be language that trivializes terrible realities—like hell and damnation and holiness. What’s wrong with saying, “What the hell!” or “Hell, no!” or “Go to hell!” or “Damn it!” or “Damn right!” or “Holy cow!” or “Holy mackerel!”?
            Among other things these expressions trivialize things of terrible seriousness. It’s simply a contradiction to believe in the horrible reality of hell and use the word like a punctuation mark for emphasis when talking about sports or politics. The same is true of damnation.”
            See – https://www.desiringgod.org/messages/make-your-mouth-a-means-of-grace for full article.

        • David, I assume you listened to the program prior to commenting, but if not, the headline is based on the story that Kevin relates (near the end, at 35 or 36 minutes) about his reception by the Lambeth press office in 2008 at the Lambeth Conference.
          Perhaps the real question is why the ABoC allows his functionaries to speak that way to people they identify as conservatives.

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