The Covid Crazies are slowly taking over the world. This and much more on today’s extended Anglican Unscripted with Kevin Kallsen and George Conger.
The Covid Crazies are slowly taking over the world. This and much more on today’s extended Anglican Unscripted with Kevin Kallsen and George Conger.
What Covid -19 has exposed is our constant, deep underlying fear. Our lives have been overwhelmed by fear. This, more than anything, proves that Satan is hard at work and we are being outwitted by him.
Try telling that to my wife whose father was admitted to hospital here in the UK, contracted Covid and died. And now my own mother has been infected – in her care home. Some measure of fear in the face of a dangerous virus is 100% justified. We aren’t overwhelmed by fear, but we do believe in taking the necessary precautions – which evidently millions of Americans don’t because they believe the lies of their President and others of his mendacious ilk. And we have similar Covid-deniers over here too. Satan is definitely at work, but probably not only in the way you are suggesting. So: overwhelming fear – bad; lies-based complacency – thoroughly evil.
What a strange and warped view of our country this is. You might want to consider not getting US news from wherever it is you get it.
Condolences on your wife’s loss, and best wishes for your mother’s safety.
Well, 74.2 million Americans voted for a strange and warped President who in public dismissed the Covid pandemic as a hoax – a ‘hoax’ which has now killed nearly 398,000 US citizens – while privately admitting that he knew exactly how dangerous the virus was. I note that you don’t engage with the facts, but prefer an ad hominem attack on me for the news sources which I use – about which you are entirely ignorant. So, as I said before, Satan is clearly at work, and not only among those unnecessarily paralysed by fear, but among others whose complacency and outright denial of the facts are responsible for putting their fellow-citizens at risk of infection and worse. Oh, and by the way, we have the same problems here in the UK, so I clearly have a ‘strange and warped’ view of my own country too…
Thank you, though, for your good wishes. God bless you and yours, and keep you all safe.
He did not say the virus was a hoax. He said the story line that he’d done nothing about it was a hoax. Both of these statements are true. I don’t think you are insincere, sir, but I think large numbers of people here and in other countries believe untrue reports. Which reports we think are untrue depends upon who reports them to us.
I think the original comment, above, was aimed at the irrational fears many people have, not at prudent behavior for those at high risk.
Thanks for drawing this to my attention – and my apologies for misquoting Mr Trump. Actually what he said was that the virus was another Democrat hoax, i.e. yet another means of attacking him, which itself was a lie. Nevertheless, Trump’s careless rhetoric that the virus would be gone by April 2020, claiming that when temperatures rise, the virus would “miraculously” go away, was at best careless and at worst highly dangerous, if not lethal. Unsurprisingly, he offered no scientific or medical explanation to support his theory. That’s because in so many respects this is a ‘fact-free’ President. And to show oneself to be ‘fact free’ is to delight Satan, because ‘he is a liar and the father of lies’ (John 8:44).
Gracious. Peace be with you. And may your mother heal.
May the Lord bless you and yours richly. Thanks for the discussion.
You really are pathetic. You seem to hate Trump, yet you hang on his everyword. We who live here and have enjoyed the freedom he fought for, the economic prosperity he fought for, and for the religious freedom he fought for consider him the best president ever. You might ponder some of that while you spend the rest of your life locked down in merry old England.
God bless and keep you, brother.
Who won the election? (The answer to this question determines which planet the respondent is on.)
By the way, I have no allegiance to any US political party. I do not hate Trump, but I do abhor mendacity, as any Christian should – and with Trump mendacity is second nature.
It is with Joe Biden as well, so it will be a sad few years for you. And for us all.
I wonder, though, whether the lie will be as big as ‘We won the election!’ (Trump). Of course, all politicians lie. We should be aware of that. And we shouldn’t expect them to do the job reserved for the churches. You can’t legislate morality. That’s the fruit of a changed heart.
The illegalities and irregularities across several states make many observers, myself included, think that fraud may have indeed swung the election to Biden. If the Democrats are innocent, they certainly aren’t acting like it, engaging in actions to suppress opposing opinions. At the very least, it is impossible to tell who won the states in which the illegalities and irregularities were so flagrant.
An even worse situation, from a moral viewpoint, in my opinion, is that Biden and the entire Democrat party leadership have labeled Trump and all his voters as “racists.” That is a vicious lie, and it is not unreasonable at all for those slandered to resent it. If they will not back off from their hatred, they have little chance of the “reconciliation” they claim to want.
I prayed in church this morning for an end to the hatred, and will try personally not to promote it. The Lord can do many things. He will have to turn a lot of hearts to fix this.
There is a problem here: belief in electoral fraud is not proof of electoral fraud. So, the question is: where is this proof? Answer: there isn’t any. The affidavits have been laughed out of court, and in any case affidavits aren’t evidence.
There will not be an end to hatred and division in the USA until there is an acknowledgment of what is true and what is false, whatever one’s political stance. Of course, all politicians lie – and I’m sure that Biden in that respect is a typical politician. However, Donald Trump has lied from the moment he took office, e.g. over the size of the crowd at his inauguration and the magnitude of his win in 2016 – with the result that his Big Lie (i.e. that he won the 2020 election) has been swallowed along with all the others.
Those who base their hatred on lies, whether by Trump or the groups he listens to, such as Q’Anon, will never be able to give it up. Their hatred will simply grow – and America will continue her march towards the destruction of her democracy. Remember this: a post-truth America threatens to become a pre-fascist America. And there are fascists on both sides. Those on the right will only provoke those on the left.
The answer is TRUTH. And Christians must be active in truth-telling, especially in telling truth to political power, whoever holds it at any one time.
I agree with you about truth. But I give up on trying here to wade through the distortions in the American media cartel, which are so reliably repeated in international media.
I wasn’t going to comment further, but thanks for calling me a crackpot or cultist. I only think you are misinformed; your opinion of me and of 74 million or so Americans is at another, and lower, level.
The nature of these kinds of conversation is that they tend to increase in heat, however much they may have been acceptable early on they can go too far by the end.
When someone is called a crackpot or cultist, as you were and by implication half the American population, that is too far. I’m not going to engage in that conversation, it is futile, there is no point in it. But when namecalling occurs to that degree, I don’t have to let that stand.
Thank you Katherine for clarifying my position. It was a bit truncated. I was definitely addressing the fear that threatens to prevent Christians from lovimg their neighbor by locking them out of church halls (as well as out of homes). I am told there was a day when Christians were the only ones willing to risk caring for the victims of plagues regardless of the personal cost. Ah the harsh realities of real-Christianity (as in real-politik).
Mollie Hemingway, a conservative commentator and conservative Christian, observed that people without Christian faith often appeared to have a crippling fear of death from the virus, out of proportion to their actual medical risk.
By the way, in the last 4 years I do not believe the media here in Ireland, state or public, has made one positive comment concerning President Trump. If the populace gets alternate views they come from family living in the States or they follow outlying online news sources. The “average” and “educated” here have all been conditioned to despise the man. I rarely run into anyone familiar with his policies or the rationale behind them. When I do they invariably invoke the lines taken by The Washington Post, The NY Times, the AP or NPR. Their hatred of Trump always strikes me as personal and i don’t understand it. George W. Bush was treated in much the same way. When I ask the question, “Have you heard anthing positive about Donald Trump in the last 4 years” I get a blank stare. When I follow that with “Doesn’t that in itself seem strange” the conversation shifts (and I let it go).
I found this was very true when I lived outside the US for four years, 2005-2009. I did not recognize my country as it was seen in the eyes of foreign friends.
Alan, I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your father-in-law and of your mother’s illness. These are very hard things at any time, even more so under the current conditions. May. God pour out his mercy upon you and your families and may you feel the comfort and strength of His presence as you struggle through this time.
That’s extremely kind of you – thank you. May the Lord bless and keep you and yours also.