The Anglican Trio talk about the latest from TEC HOB, South Africa, Gotcha Journalism, and more crazy news.
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On the impeachment confusion…
If the Senate tries the President and convicts on a 2/3 vote, on the Articles of Impeachment (previously drawn up and voted on by the House of Representatives), the President will be removed from office. The President may only be impeached for bribery, treason or other “high crimes and misdemeanors”. Arguably, the term “impeached” applies once the House of Representatives has voted. In Clinton’s case he was also tried, but not convicted, with the main charge being that he lied to federal and congressional investigators. The wiki for Andrew Johnson is phrased this way: “he came into conflict with the Republican-dominated Congress, culminating in his impeachment by the House of Representatives. He was acquitted in the Senate by one vote.”
I understood that impeachment had to occur before the matter went to the House. That is, impeachment is similar to being charged with something and the trial can begin only after that has happened. I’m probably wrong!
Edit- I wrote that before I saw the end of the show.
David,
Our legislature has 2 houses. The house of Representatives votes on the articles of Impeachment (the “charges” or “indictment” if you will). The Senate is the house where the actual trial takes place. In some ways analogous to the House of Lords, but our Senate is elected.
Our Australian Constitution is based on the US in that respect- A House of Reps elected from single-member constituencies and a Senate with equal numbers from each State plus a few from the federal territories.
I do want to note that everyone should search out George Conger’s brief comments on the Anglican Church of Southern Africa. A much brighter, holier, Godly outlook than one sees in the “official” statements from Capetown or ACNS. While I think concern is still warranted, given the recent shift in their HoB favoring the circulation of the primate’s paper pushing the revisionist agenda, there is reason to hope that as time goes on, the Church in Southern Africa will increasingly reflect the Christian position of the rest of Africa and reject the Western secular agenda.
George’s comments on South Africa begin about 27:45;
Perhaps also worth noting, the Church of Southern Africa encompasses Anglicans in several countries, not just the nation of South Africa.
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Please like this comment and I’ll keep watching.
One thing we have to try to point out to the chattering classes is that those who frequently use terms such as homophobic, racist, sexist and so on are usually being very lazy with the English language. We all meet people who throw out technical terms will-nilly (or helter-skelter) partly because they are bone lazy and partly because they are smug and want to appear clever. The attribute-accusers are of that ilk, but worse. I look forward to Gavin’s one-liners, and hope he puts them into the public domain.
On the impeachment confusion…
If the Senate tries the President and convicts on a 2/3 vote, on the Articles of Impeachment (previously drawn up and voted on by the House of Representatives), the President will be removed from office. The President may only be impeached for bribery, treason or other “high crimes and misdemeanors”. Arguably, the term “impeached” applies once the House of Representatives has voted. In Clinton’s case he was also tried, but not convicted, with the main charge being that he lied to federal and congressional investigators. The wiki for Andrew Johnson is phrased this way: “he came into conflict with the Republican-dominated Congress, culminating in his impeachment by the House of Representatives. He was acquitted in the Senate by one vote.”
I understood that impeachment had to occur before the matter went to the House. That is, impeachment is similar to being charged with something and the trial can begin only after that has happened. I’m probably wrong!
Edit- I wrote that before I saw the end of the show.
David,
Our legislature has 2 houses. The house of Representatives votes on the articles of Impeachment (the “charges” or “indictment” if you will). The Senate is the house where the actual trial takes place. In some ways analogous to the House of Lords, but our Senate is elected.
Our Australian Constitution is based on the US in that respect- A House of Reps elected from single-member constituencies and a Senate with equal numbers from each State plus a few from the federal territories.
I do want to note that everyone should search out George Conger’s brief comments on the Anglican Church of Southern Africa. A much brighter, holier, Godly outlook than one sees in the “official” statements from Capetown or ACNS. While I think concern is still warranted, given the recent shift in their HoB favoring the circulation of the primate’s paper pushing the revisionist agenda, there is reason to hope that as time goes on, the Church in Southern Africa will increasingly reflect the Christian position of the rest of Africa and reject the Western secular agenda.
George’s comments on South Africa begin about 27:45;
Perhaps also worth noting, the Church of Southern Africa encompasses Anglicans in several countries, not just the nation of South Africa.
Some years ago when I was first getting to know the niceties of the internet I noticed a company saying “Like us on … and we will put you in the draw for …”. I decided then and there that I would never “like” anything on the internet no matter how much I liked it. Sorry gentlemen. No like your show. Like.
Please like this comment and I’ll keep watching.
One thing we have to try to point out to the chattering classes is that those who frequently use terms such as homophobic, racist, sexist and so on are usually being very lazy with the English language. We all meet people who throw out technical terms will-nilly (or helter-skelter) partly because they are bone lazy and partly because they are smug and want to appear clever. The attribute-accusers are of that ilk, but worse. I look forward to Gavin’s one-liners, and hope he puts them into the public domain.
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